Interlude: Lobster

“Zayne?” Hope’s soft voice called out over the murmur of the other diners and scraping of their forks on their plates.

Zayne looked up from the game he’d been playing on his phone, smiling as she drew closer and took a seat beside him. A warmth washed over him at the sight of her beautiful face. He hadn’t seen her in person since the night of his birthday. That was already over a month ago.

“Hey.” He smiled. “I’m really glad you came.”

“Of course. I was just a little surprised when you told me where you wanted to have lunch…” Hope took a moment to look around at the near-empty dining room. “But I was happy you called.”

“Guess I was just feeling nostalgic.” Zayne shrugged.

The Bistro had barely changed since he’d first been hired as a dishwasher there all those years ago… In appearance, at least. But none of the staff members Zayne knew were still around.  The manager who’d hired him retired a few years ago, and last year, so did Denise. He’d sent her a card and some flowers when he found out. Despite their differences, she taught him a hell of a lot about cooking, and how to run a kitchen. He wouldn’t be where he was today without her. Part of him wished he’d recognized it sooner.

“It really is a blast from the past, huh?” Hope’s voice called him back to the present. “You worked here for such a long time.”

“I did… But that’s not exactly what I was talking about.” Zayne lifted his arm and pointed across the dining room before speaking again. “Look at that table over there… That’s where it happened. Remember?” Zayne smiled warmly as he spoke.

“Of course! How could I forget?” Hope laughed. “I remember it like it was yesterday… My first ever visit to Windenburg, and my mom was embarrassing the hell out of me in front of the cute dishwasher. That’s the kind of thing that scars you for life.” She teased.

“Well, the cute dishwasher thought it was pretty damn funny.” Zayne replied. “And… He also thought you were the most beautiful girl in the entire world.”

He watched as Hope’s cheeks reddened slightly. “You know, that cute dishwasher was the first boy I ever had a crush on.”

Zayne’s lips stretched into a soft smile. “And you were the first girl that cute dishwasher ever loved. The only girl.”

“He’s the only guy I ever loved too.” Hope’s voice was barely above a whisper.

“Here you are! One order of garlic noodles, and one lobster tortellini.”

Both of them nearly jumped at the sound of the waitress’ perky voice. She placed the plates in front of each of them before practically skipping back toward the kitchen.

“That was… unexpected.” Hope muttered, amused.

“Oh yeah.” Zayne almost laughed at the waitress’ poor timing. “I forgot to mention I ordered for you…”

“My favorite.” Hope smiled, looking down at her plate of tortellini. “Good call!”

“I figured it was a safe bet.” He replied as he took a tentative bite of his noodles. They weren’t all that bad, but they were so much blander than he remembered them being when he made them.

Across the table, Hope seemed similarly dissatisfied with her own meal. “I’ve been spoiled on yours for too long.” She laughed. “This is… okay. But it doesn’t even come close to what you make.”

“I had a feeling that might be the case… Next time, remind me to invite you to LuzLicht instead.”

“Oh, I will.” She assured him as she took another bite of her mediocre meal.

Neither of them said anything for a few moments after that, until Hope broke the silence at last. “Zayne… I know you didn’t invite me here just to trash-talk the bistro’s new chef.”

He couldn’t help but laugh. “True.” He admitted. “You caught me.”

“So… What’s going on?”

Zayne placed his fork back on the table and took a deep breath. It was finally time to stop beating around the bush, wasn’t it? “I wanted to talk to you.” He confessed. “About something I’ve been thinking about ever since I broke up with Abigail.”

The woman across from him suddenly seemed so terrified and excited all at once. But she said nothing, so he continued.

“I meant what I said before, about you being the only girl I’ve ever loved. And I’ve been thinking a lot lately about what we talked about last year… About waiting until the timing’s right to try again?”

“I’ve been thinking about that too.” Hope replied softly.

Zayne’s heart pounded nervously in his chest. “It just feels like… Like something always brings me back to you. And I guess maybe instead of trying to run from it this time… Maybe it’s time to embrace it?”

Her relief was apparent on her face. “I was hoping you’d say that.” Hope smiled gently at him. “When I came back to Windenburg, I was feeling so lost. I just wanted to be somewhere safe and familiar, I guess. Home. But once I got here, I realized that it wasn’t this city that was home to me, Zayne. It was you.”

Her words made his heart flutter in his chest. “I was so happy you came back… Even if it complicated things a little.” He admitted.

“Or a lot.” Hope almost smiled for a moment, but it vanished almost immediately. “I’m really sorry for ruining things between you and Abigail.” Despite everything, it truly sounded like she meant it. And Zayne believed that she did.

“You didn’t.” He assured her. “Honestly, I didn’t end things with her because of you. Not completely, anyway.” Zayne hoped learning the truth wouldn’t offend her. He studied Hope’s face for a moment, but she appeared unfazed.

“Abigail and I were just too different, I think.” Zayne continued. “It wasn’t fair to me or her for us to stay together. But I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about things ever since I broke up with her. ‘Re-evaluating’, as Dr. Hall would say.” He paused. “It never would have worked out for me and Abs… But I think maybe it’s finally time for things to work out with you.

Hope did not immediately reply.”Well, I’m really sorry things had to end like that.” She said seriously. “But I’m so happy you want to try again… We just really have to figure out how to do things right this time around. We can’t mess it up again. We can’t lose each other like last time.”

“I know.” He agreed. “Remember what you said about perspective though? I mean this whole thing with Abigail… It hurt so much. For both of us.” Zayne said sadly.

He’d spent most of the last month mourning his relationship with Abigail and working up the courage to move forward. But the pain still lingered a bit. For a moment, he couldn’t help but remember the look on Abigail’s beautiful face when he’d broken her heart. He did his best to chase the thought away.

“I guess it helps me appreciate how you must have felt back when I was fucking everything up.” Zayne continued. “And how hard it was for you to decide to end things.”

Hope nodded. “And it was my turn to be jealous this time around, I guess.” She admitted. “I was so petty and immature and… not myself. I want to apologize for how I acted. It was so childish. It wasn’t fair to you or Abigail. And it was so hard to get it under control. I guess it made me understand how hard it must have been for you back then too.”

Zayne tried to hide his surprise. He hadn’t realized just how deep Hope’s jealousy over Abigail had gone. “Yeah.” He said at last. “This whole thing really sucked for everybody… But I guess it kinda helped us understand each other in a weird way.”

“I think it did.” She agreed.

Zayne was silent for a few moments before speaking again. “So do you think we can do it? Start over? Like, seriously start over. No moving in with each other or sleeping together or anything like that yet. Not for a little while, at least. Just… dating a little. Reconnecting. Seeing where things go?” Zayne eyed her nervously, waiting for her reaction.

To his relief, Hope nodded seriously. “I was thinking the same thing, to be honest. I’m all for taking it slow this time… As long as we’re in this together.”

Zayne smiled. “Together… I like the sound of that.” That was how it was always meant to be, wasn’t it? From the moment they met. Maybe part of him had always known it, deep down. “I guess… it was always kinda inevitable, wasn’t it?” He continued softly. “You and me, I mean.”

Hope nodded, smiling, then glanced down at her plate of lobster tortellini for a moment. A bright burst of laughter passed her lips as she did so. “This is perfect… You’re my lobster.” She said at last.

Zayne raised an eyebrow at her. “Your what?”

“You know. Ross and Rachel? From Friends?”

He simply shrugged.

She laughed again. “Ever since Fangs ended, I’ve been watching lots of old Friends reruns.” Hope explained. “And there’s an episode where one of the characters claims that lobsters mate for life… And she tells her friend Ross that Rachel is his ‘lobster’.” She smiled warmly at him. “The one he’ll always go back to, no matter what. The person he’s meant to be with forever, y’know? His soulmate.”

Zayne couldn’t help but chuckle at her explanation. It was so bizarre… but he loved it. “So… I’m your lobster, then?”

Hope nodded.

“And… you’re my lobster too?”

“I hope so.” She replied softly.

“Sounds perfect to me.” His lips curled into a smile. “As long as neither of us ends up in a plate of tortellini…”

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106 Responses to Interlude: Lobster

  1. Creshone says:

    Yeeeesssss!!! The moment I have been waiting for. The ship is boarding! Last call for all passengers! Bring on the nooboos!

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      Hehehehe I’ve really been looking forward to sharing this chapter! I know not everyone will be happy, but I ship these two so hard and I’ve been dying for them to finally get back together ^_^ Glad you enjoyed! All aboard! 😛

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    • kaffepigen says:

      I’m with you on the ship!

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  2. Bugsie2016 says:

    I spot a wild Hozay. (Time to feed it with Lobster. Gotta keep it strong.) Yes!!!!!!! Don’t mess things up this time Hozay or you’re gonna be made into that tortellini by @orangeplumbob

    I was literally shaking reading this, wanting them to get back togethor. But i’m glad he took a month to think about it. It could have been worse otherwise

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      Haha hopefully they will not end up as tortellini! 😛 Sorry you felt so nervous about this one, but I’m glad you were so happy with the outcome!

      And yes, Zayne totally needed some time to mourn his relationship with Abigail and really think about the future before making this decision. And I think it was the right one 🙂

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      • Bugsie2016 says:

        I was shaking with excitement, don’t worry.

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        • Bugsie2016 says:

          Ok, I’m looking forward to gen 6 now. Quick question: does the bg change colour every gen or is this a coincidence? I’ve only ever seen it green.

          Extra Note: This is my 1st gen change in all of simlit reading, I’m excited!!!

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          • CitizenErased14 says:

            Haha Bugsie, I do change it every generation 🙂 I change it to the heir’s favorite color (Zayne’s was green).

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            • Bugsie2016 says:

              I thought you just really liked green but that makes sense too. So what was everyone else’s? I’m curious now. *insert strange excited face*

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              • CitizenErased14 says:

                Hahaha I had blue in Gen 1 with Alex. He’s the only one where the color was kind of random. Gen 2 was purple for Mari. Gen 3 was actually yellow, because I wanted to do a third/neutral color (since Tobi and Stefan each had different favorite colors). Gen 4 was blue for Joce 🙂 As you know, Gen 5 was green for Zayne.

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  3. NoaLyn says:

    Yayy dear god I was so worried you wouldn’t make it happen in spite of the last chapters leading to this in some way! I’m so happy and I can’t wait for them to finally have kids!

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      Hahaha I am not ALWAYS evil, you know 😉 And I ship these two SO HARD. Couldn’t resist giving them their happy ending haha. Thanks so much for reading, NoaLyn!

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  4. Trip says:

    That was sweet! It takes a lot of growth from them to not bang in the walk-in fridge immediately. Time for some other couples to learn amirite- They definitely were the couple to bang first, talk later or never. I guess not having kids put a curve into Zayne’s character development. Mari had to give up drinking and sexcapades and just talk much, much earlier than Zayne did, for example.

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      That is soooo true. Your description of “bang first, talk later/never” totally sums up their initial relationship. But they’ve both come so far. 🙂 It just took a while… like you said, no kiddos as incentive there 😉 But now… well, we’ll see 😉

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  5. audreyfld says:

    Doing a happy dance!!! ❤️❤️ Woot! Woot! About dang time! At least you didn’t “Marklyn” them and make them too old to have babies! They still have a good part of their lives to be each other’s lobster!!! Haha! Bring on the wedding and the nooboos!

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      Hehehe I’m glad you’re so happy, Audrey! I am too 🙂 and there has to be a Gen 6, right? Can’t pull what I did with Zayne again 😛 Here’s to nooboos and a lifetime of lobsterdom! 🍻

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  6. witchazard says:

    Dark WitcHazard: Well that’s all folks sorry for no post yesterday we were attending a stranger reunion!

    Lover WitcHazard: Cause everyone knows at family reunions you really only know like five people there and everyone one else is trying to figure out who the heck you’re related to! Of course what’s a stranger reunion without some n baby momma drama!

    Dark WitcHazard: And potential incest! But enough about that let’s look at the conclusion of the final round which as we can see Hope came out on top winning the match!

    Lover WitcHazard: Honestly I’m happy for Zayne breaking up with Abigail I just wished this was a let’s just be friends dinner!

    Dark WitcHazard: Still not boarding Hozay I see!

    Lover WitcHazard: It’s a cute ship but jus not for me! But I’m happy Zayne’s happy so I’ll Let it slide however, there is still room for a potential break up it’s not over until they walk down the isle and have a daughter together until then Zayne’s still up for grabs!

    Dark WitcHazard: Still waiting for the third girl that will never come I envy you resolve! But I think this looks all wrapped up to me let’s ask that man in the audience! Sir how did you feel about the match?

    Anti Shipper: It was rigged from the beginning!

    Dark WitcHazard: Thank you for your honesty well folks that’s it will now wait for what’s to come for the new Hozay we hope it leads to a happy life with lots of!

    Nooboos WitcHazard: Nooboos!

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  7. thegraeyone says:

    Finally these two work things out. I’m so proud of these responsible adults.

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  8. julyvee94 says:

    Awwwww so cute 😀 they were always meant for each other. Now watch abigail burst in and tell them she’s pregnant 😂😂 that’s my theory

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  9. skcaga6 says:

    Pammie is not going to like this one bit. I LOVE it though.

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  10. OnyxRaven says:

    Hozay! Hozay! Hozay! 💗💗💗 Don’t screw it up this time, Hozay.

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  11. Cement says:

    I feel like this comment is gonna make me a Debbie Downer when I say male lobsters actually bang a whole slew of lady lobsters and don’t necessarily mate for life…
    But I guess that does apply to Zayne for a while when he broke it off with Hope? 😂

    More random fun facts I remember, Lobsters are also super magical creatures that live for an extraordinarily long time, AND can mate in their elderly ages

    So if they’re lobsters now you better bring on the thousands of babies no excuses 😭😭

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  12. megiare says:

    First comes love, then comes marriage, the comes…..=D =D =D

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  13. Charlotte says:

    Omg yes! I’m so excited for both of them!!!

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  14. Luna says:

    This time I don’t really have much to say. It felt so natural, like it had to happen this way. Don’t haste it, find how you best fit together.

    So they are their special lobsters now? While eating lobster? If that isn’t a way to show love. I hope none of them is going to be a special LadyLobster, that level of drama and jokes isn’t something they can handle in their own life.

    But one more thing about Zayne. He tells he only loved Hope? I can’t really believe that. He seemed so in love with Abby too, and really close to her before things got complicated. I can’t believe he never really loved Abby. It might be what he tells himself, but he loved Abby too. In a different way than Hope. But normally you don’t just love two people in the exact same way. The things he loves about Hope and their special connection are different from what he had with Abby, but thats normal.

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      I guess everyone has different interpretations of love 🙂 I don’t think Zayne ever called what he felt toward Abigail “love”, but maybe it was its own type of love? He most definitely cared for her deeply. But either way, he never loved her the way he loved Hope, or as much as he loved her either. She is the love of his life… his Lobster 😉 and I loved your Fangs reference by the way 😂

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      • Luna says:

        Yeah, I still have to thank you for introducing me to that story some time ago. It’s been a lot of fun to read, and it ended up in lots of kids, which feels satisfying.

        Thanks for your answer. I don’t know what is going on in Zaynes head, but whether he calls his relationship with Abby love or not, i just think it was. From butterflies to caring, understanding and having a deep connection he had everything. Just in a different way.

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        • kaffepigen says:

          Now i’ve heard people mention “Fangs story” so many times. What is it exactly? And where can i find it??

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          • CitizenErased14 says:

            It’s called “Fangs for the Memories” 🙂 I linked it in a chapter where I referenced it as a TV show that Zayne and Hope watch. You can find a link to it in that chapter (earlier in this gen) or on the forums 🙂

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  15. Jes2G says:

    Oh. So we’re here…already. Ok.

    I know Abigail is no longer in the equation, but she’s not gonna like this at all. Imagine…accusing your boyfriend of breaking up with you because of a woman only to find out he is with that woman after a month. Although she deserved to be broken up with, methinks she has a right to be mad about this.

    On the flip side, I like this taking things slow thing. Hopefully they’ll do well with it.

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      I think Abigail will not be happy no matter when he ended up back with Hope. And like you said, she totally has the right to feel that way (I certainly would!). But on the flip side, I think that once he took a few weeks to mourn his relationship with Abigail, Zayne has reached the point where he doesn’t want to wait anymore for Hope. Everything always leads him back to her, and he’s decided “Screw it, I’m not waiting any longer. Let’s try to make this work again.” So I understand that it’s maybe insensitive to Abigail, but I also think Zayne is finally taking a stand for himself and his own happiness by making this move, y’know?

      Thanks for reading, Jess!

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  16. sonniejj says:

    All right, Hope gets some brownie points for that great Friends-reference!

    I figured this was coming. I hope neither of them fuck it up this time (excuse my French :P) and things actually work out. Still feeling a bit sorry for Abigail, I really liked her, but I guess Zayne and Hope just never really got over each other and maybe that’s a sign?

    Also, just throwing out there that this would be the perfect time for an unplanned pregnancy… And I’m not necessarily talking about Hope 😉

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      Haha you are not the only one with that theory! Guess we’ll see whether or not Zayne fulfills the proud Rosebrook legacy of unplanned pregnancies 😂 Glad you enjoyed the Friends reference 🙂

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  17. sourocha1 says:

    Finally! I was eager to they finally open up to each other and end this things, once in for all, the question now is, without the hole drama with HoZay, what will be the next drama in Zayne’s life..?

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  18. Yeeees!! Fate! It was meant to be! This chapter has a distinct feel of “what happens before the story jumps foward a few years” type of feel. I can’t wait to see the offsprings!! Cutest babies ever. I have been waiting all day to read this, and when I got home and read it, it made my whole day lol Thank you so much again, for being the best simlit {and overall} author ever ^.^ So excited for the future of Hozay!

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      Oh you are way too sweet haha I wouldn’t say I’m the best, but I appreciate your kind words ^_^ I’m glad this chapter was so exciting for you. I was really looking forward to sharing this one! 🙂

      And your feeling about a time jump is more or less correct… you’ll find out Wednesday 😉 Thank you for reading!

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  19. nichole1011 says:

    Orange will be verrrrry excited to see that her ship is well on its way to…wherever we are going. Everybody come along! We won!!! ❤️😂 But seriously. My two babes! I think it’ll be much better for them. They each understand what the other needs. I think it’s also smarter since Hope isn’t working as a model now because Zayne is probably always going to be a wee bit selfish about his career, but it’s understandable. They have the time to dedicate to work on their relationship and Zayne’s career AND enough time to find Hope something that she’ll love and be passionate about.

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      I think she’ll be excited too! She’s a few chapters behind so hopefully she will catch up soon and join the HoZay celebration before we leave her behind on the dock 😛

      I agree that things will be better for them this time around. They’ve both come a long way and have learned a LOT from their past mistakes! As for Hope, she actually IS still a model at the moment, but her career is most definitely winding down and she will have to find something else to put her energy into 🙂 And I think Zayne will support her every step of the way ❤ Thanks for reading, Nichole!

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  20. zombiegums says:

    How cute! I’m glad they’re back together, they complement each other so well.

    I’m all caught up now, and it only took what 2 – 3 days (or nights) of binge reading? Haha.

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      Yay!!! You made it! 😀 This is exciting hehe. Thank you so much for all your hours of binge reading! I appreciate it so much 🙂 My current update is schedule is 3 days a week — weekends and Wednesdays. So check back for a new chapter in a couple days. 😉 Thanks for reading, Lisha! 🙂

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      • zombiegums says:

        No worries. This story helped me endure the hot and humid weather I’m currently languishing in. Seriously, I wish air conditioning was common in the UK — I need it.

        Immersing myself in the world you’ve created really did help take my mind off of the heat, especially when it made me unable to sleep. You’re also a big inspiration when it comes to sim-lit!

        I have to ask, is it hard to get your sims in position for various scenes? I’m very grateful that the poseplayer and the teleporter mods exist, but sometimes I feel a little overwhelmed when setting up scenes with multiple sims. You frequently have chapters that feature many family members/friends, and as a simmer I’m just like: “Wow. Even when I turn off autonomy, some of my sims still like to wander off.” Also, all of your sims have such distinct personalities and it’s like their various arcs just seem to occur so naturally, if that makes sense? Nothing you write seems forced. How do you manage that?

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        • CitizenErased14 says:

          Thank you for your kind words! 🙂 As for your writing question, I honestly don’t have a very good answer… I guess I will say that I do a lot of planning ahead of time that I think helps a lot. I spend a lot of time thinking about my characters and their arcs because I have a plan in mind ahead of time that I think about (for example, my main gen 4 storylines were planned out literally when the kids were babies back about halfway through Gen 3. So, for example, my whole time writing Joce and Luc as kids and teens, I knew she was going to fall in love with a much older man, I knew Luc was going to be a jerk and push her away from the family, then die. Etc) So I guess just having those things in mind early on help 🙂 (Of course, details change often as I go! But I always have the ‘big picture’ in mind early. I already have all the big details of Zayne’s daughter’s life all planned out 🙂 )

          As for screenshotting… I will be 100% honest haha it usually takes a couple of hours per chapter to screenshot. Especially the Interludes (Journals are usually much easier. Probably an hour or so to screenshot?) It is very difficult to do certain types of scenes, and I am, unfortunately, a perfectionist hahaha. But I also find it very fun, in a way. It doesn’t quite feel like work! As for people wandering away, one tip I can suggest is (if you want them to stand in a certain spot while talking and not wander off or go sit) is to continually click the ground under their feet and choose “chat here”. This will prevent them from walking away 🙂 You just need to do it literally after every single action they do haha.

          Sorry for my weird and jumbled answer. But I hope it was somewhat helpful 🙂

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  21. kaffepigen says:

    YAY!!! This is what i hoped for. I love that they are together again and that they are taking things slow ❤ They seriously need that. They are so perfect for each other. But I can't believe Zayne hasn't wathed Friends. Tsk tsk… That's a fault in his upbringing haha! I'm so excited. This definitely helped save my evening so thank you! ❤

    His break up with Abigail really showed how much he has grown. He's much more mature now than when he was with Hope the first time around. He's come so far, with his restaurant and now getting back together with Hope. I feel like this is the right solution to everything and that they will stay together this time, for real! I believe in you guys!

    Now, where are we on the nooboos? They must come soon, but when? WHEN? 😛 Lol, no but seriously, can't wait for nooboos! 🙂 You gotta love'em 😉 And since they will be Zayne's they have to be the cutest ever.

    Btw awesome chapter. One of my favorites so far ❤

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      Hehehehe patience, patience! I know though, I’ve kept you guys waiting for a long time for nooboos 😛 And yes, Zayne not watching Friends is a crime! XD

      I’m really glad you loved this chapter so much, and appreciate how far Zayne has come. Thank you so much for reading and sharing your thoughts! 🙂

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  22. raerei says:

    Lol. The lobster analogy was hilarious! I’m glad they’re going to give it one more try, but this is the last…third time. A charm? It a strike out? Only time will tell.

    🙂

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  23. MY SHIP! MY SHIP! IT SAILS! FULL SPEED AHEAD!!!

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  24. Brass Buckles says:

    Honestly, I am still wishing that there were a third option available. I’m definitely still not sold on Hope, and Abigail was showing strong signs of being a dead end early on. I feel like I’m, the only person actively against the Zayne/Hope relationship at this point.

    Zayne has grown up a lot, but Hope has issues she hasn’t really addressed–just pushed to the side for the time being. Just because she stopped stalking him and realized that was more than a little wrong doesn’t mean that the issues that caused her to stalk him are resolved. And, realistically, both of them should have had a lot of dates in the time they’ve split up, some of whom they may have gotten along with reasonably well (other than Abigail).

    And as far as I can tell, Zayne’s flat out lying when he says Hope is the only woman he’s loved. As much as Abigail wasn’t the right person for him, he sincerely cared that he hurt her and he had genuinely wanted that relationship to work out. He loves Hope more, but he also loves Abigail or he wouldn’t still care that he hurt her. It isn’t the same sort of love he has for Hope because the history isn’t there, but it’s still love.

    I appreciate that they are being mature and working through their relationship. However, I feel that Hope’s issues may cause problems going forward if she’s not willing to work on them. Again, just because she realizes she has problems doesn’t mean she’s able to magically solve them on her own, or even identify what all of them are.

    I know we still have generation 6’s infant through teen years ahead, not to mention Hope isn’t even pregnant yet, so I’m sure we’ll see more trouble ahead even though this particular scene has a perfect sitcom-style ending where everything seems to be wrapped up perfectly at the end of the episode.

    I guess what I’m saying is, in my mind, Zayne and Hope don’t mesh well anymore, if they ever did. Zayne has moved on and matured, while Hope has not. I’ve been iffy on the resumption of their relationship from the beginning because of how it ended. Zayne dealt with things in a healthy way, and Hope hasn’t. That makes all the difference in the world, but Hope appears to be Zayne’s only option at this point. That’s why I wish there were another option.

    But I’m not everyone, and I see most people are thrilled with this development. I’m probably overthinking what is effectively a written multigenerational soap opera featuring the Sims!

    We’ll see, I guess. Maybe Hope will at least end up with a good therapist after all this.

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts 🙂 I think Zayne definitely cared very deeply for Abigail, you’re right. As for Hope, I think she has some things to work on too. Hopefully as they move forward she can, and moving slow might help with that.

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    • kaffepigen says:

      I don’t believe he loved Abigail, but that doesn’t mean he can’t care about her feelings. Emotions aren’t black and white.
      And Hope’s reason to “stalk” Zayne was that she was jealous because she still loved him. That was the issue she had. And now that is solved because they are back together.
      Fair enough you don’t like them together though ^_^ We’re not all alike.

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      • Brass Buckles says:

        Love isn’t as simple as all that. There’s neighborly love, the love you have for your friends, parental love, filial love, brotherly love…

        Even though you might not want to be with someone for the rest of your life, that doesn’t mean that you don’t love them romantically or otherwise, either. Life is more complicated than that, and so is love. People can love more than one person at once, though we might not always realize it–that’s how some real world people wind up cheating on their spouses or other romantic partners despite the best of intentions. As I said, it’s a different kind of love, but that doesn’t mean it’s not love. One could even make the argument that letting Abigail go for her own good was actually proof that Zayne loves Abigail the most–since he loved her enough to let her go.

        Caring about someone deeply is love. Taking action because you care about someone is love. If Zayne only liked Abigail, I think he’d have moved on sooner. He found her cute, funny, and fun to be around. They grew close. Then they grew apart. You can argue that it’s merely empathy, but he forged a bond with Abigail. It would not have hurt him so much to break it if he didn’t love her, and he probably would feel less strongly about how much he hurt her and whether or not she’ll be okay afterward. But his bond to Hope was stronger, and he fortunately recognized that it wasn’t fair to anyone involved to stay with Abigail.

        If Hope hadn’t been in the picture, or if he didn’t have a long history with Hope, his choice between Hope and Abigail probably would have been harder, even if he ultimately made the same choice because Abigail was too much like himself from the past (which, in fact, might be another good reason he couldn’t be with her–there’s always the chance that her behavior could reawaken his past behavior that he has worked to overcome, or frustrate him and cause arguments because he was like that once and moved past it, but doesn’t know what kind of advice to give her that she’d actually take).

        Stalking is not love. And she was stalking–the writer herself agreed with me. Hope stopped before it got too bad, which is good, but she still has issues or she never would have started to stalk him, and they don’t equal love. If you were to follow around your ex boyfriend, show up at the gym where he works out even though there’s a perfectly good gym closer by, and go to his workplace with a date to try to make him jealous, does that mean you love him or that you have a serious problem letting go? It’s stalking–whether you’re doing it out of obsession (probably) or jealousy (which is effectively the same thing). Reverse the genders, have your ex boyfriend follow you around in the same way. It’s not cute, it’s not loving. It’s sad at best and invasive, creepy and potentially dangerous at worst–stalkers have been known to attack their victims, especially if they feel the object of their obsession may be “taken away.” I don’t think Hope would go that far, but it’s still not good behavior.

        The primary reason that I don’t like Zayne and Hope together is that I feel their time apart and character growth has pushed them further away from one another. Now it’s Citizenerased’s time to prove me wrong as they date and try to reconnect. She’s a talented writer, and whether I like this relationship arc or not, I’ve enjoyed the rest of the story so far. One generation I’m ambivalent about or even unhappy with is small beans compared to everything else, and hey, there’s always next generation. Either way, I’m invested in the story–which means CE is doing her job well.

        I can’t say that it breaks character for them to try again, because Zayne was still thinking about Hope when he was in bed with Abigail. Hope not only initially stalked Zayne, but then showed up to wish him happy birthday and tried to fish for a smooch (bad Hope!) that she didn’t get. They are clearly both still interested. But realistically, they’ve chosen a very rocky road by not moving on to other people. I kind of wish Zayne had noticed Hope’s brief stalking episode (showing up at the same gym, appearing around where he and Abigail were hanging out and smooching) other than that one night she took a date to his restaurant, solely to make Zayne jealous. I feel bad for her date… that was really horrible behavior on so many levels. If he had noticed, he might have concluded that Hope’s jealousy issues and/or maturity level weren’t going to give him the happy ending he wants with her.

        Abigail is a lot like Past!Zayne. The problem is, Hope isn’t that much different from Past!Zayne, either, in terms of jealousy, and she is about to be unemployed or forced to seek a job she may hate just like he did in the past, too. It’s just that Hope reacts differently. Zayne got angry. Abigail got passive aggressive and manipulative with guilt trips. Hope followed Zayne around before. But as she has fewer and fewer jobs, is she going to start getting a temper too? What if she realizes Zayne used to date Victoria, and views an interaction of theirs as flirting? At this point, Zayne could deal with similar and move on. Hope might end up at the restaurant all the time to keep an eye on Zayne, and make both of them extremely uncomfortable as a result.

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        • CitizenErased14 says:

          Even though I don’t agree with some of what you say here, I always appreciate how in-depth and thought-out your comments are 🙂 Thank you for that!

          I do think there’s truth to Zayne loving Abigail in some way. But I would disagree that Hope’s brief stalking of Zayne means that she does not love him. And Hope has no intention of kissing Zayne or trying to steal him from Abigail on his birthday. She was acting out a genuine kindness and love toward him and wanting to make his birthday special. 🙂

          I am sorry that you disliked this ship/arc and I hope you can find more enjoyment in the next generation 🙂

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          • Brass Buckles says:

            It doesn’t mean she doesn’t love him. I was merely stating that stalking doesn’t equate love. You CAN love someone and stalk them, though it’s a seriously messed up behavior and the more loving thing to do is to let them go and move on. You don’t even have to date someone else if you feel that strongly! To love someone is to want them to be happy, even if that means being happy without you.

            And usually loving someone and stalking them winds you up with a restraining order and/or in jail. At least, if your stalking victim is lucky and the stalker isn’t able to outsmart the system. I have a coworker who told me about a friend whose ex has remarried, but still stalks her. It’s one of the creepiest real-world stories I have heard. It doesn’t matter if he still loves her, though as I also said earlier, obsession isn’t love–you can be in love and be obsessed, or in hate and be obsessed, or be plain old obsessed with neither love nor hatred involved at all. He’s harmed people she’s dated, harmed the woman he stalks… it’s entirely unhealthy behavior. I can’t feel sorry for the stalker, no matter how mentally ill he is, because he’s a nasty piece of work and I repeat, he’s hurt people. He’s also gamed the system by maintaining enough distance between the two of them that she cannot file for a restraining order or even have him prosecuted for the stalking. Despite this, he’s caused wrecks when she was with a date, attacked her dates, etc. And bear in mind, this man has remarried. And then he moved with his new wife to his ex wife’s neighborhood.

            And I’m sorry for any Twilight fans out there, but yes, this also means that Edward’s stalking behavior toward Bella was pure obsession, not loving or protective–even if she welcomed it. (And considering how much he put her down and laughed at her condescendingly, I’ve got serious problems believing he loved her outside of said stalking, too!) Stalking is not a loving behavior, full stop. It’s an obsessive or jealous behavior. So let’s not glamorize it or pretend it’s ideal or okay in any way, shape, or form. Real-world stalkers can and do hurt their victims physically and psychologically.

            So yeah. Tl;dr version: I don’t doubt Hope loves Zayne. But she’s also obsessed with him and jealous over him in a way that could prove harmful to herself, to Zayne, and to any woman Zayne tries to be friends with. Stalking is not love nor is it an act of love. Obsession is bad. But that doesn’t mean Hope doesn’t love Zayne, just that either her emotions or her perception have gotten warped enough that, until she realized what she was doing, she felt OK with committing to a shady behavior.

            It’s great she stopped herself early on–not only does that show a sense of self-awareness, but shows she has a functional moral compass (despite how she treated her date that time). Unfortunately just catching herself in bad behavior and deciding not to repeat it isn’t going to solve the underlying psychological issues. So it might be interesting to see her work through them, or if she is even able to.

            As for the arc… I’m actually enjoying the story. I just don’t care for the pairing. Not sure if that makes sense? And I can also change my mind as time goes on and the story progresses. I used to think Zayne was a hopeless and abusive little jerk. And, to my perception, he was. He’s grown up a lot and now I kind of like the guy. But Hope and Abigail are both kind of on my “DO NOT WANT” list at this point in the story.

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            • CitizenErased14 says:

              Thanks again for sharing your thoughts, Buckles! 🙂 I like seeing how much your perception of the story and characters has shifted over time. I’m glad Zayne has won you over, and maybe Hope can do the same in the future 😀 Thank you again for being such a dedicated and passionate reader. It’s appreciated ❤

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  25. hammyskyblu123 says:

    I see that new Gen 6 banner! AHHHH! **waves arms through air 😀

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      Hehehe I’m glad you’re so excited! I am too!
      (Also, hi! I haven’t seen you comment in a while. Thank you for reading ❤ )

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  26. Colourofmusic says:

    Oh my god, finally!
    Those two have grown so much, I really think it can work out this time. 😀

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  27. crstasse says:

    Oh, the new banner had me sooo excited!!! They have a gorgeous little daughter!!! This chapter was perfect! The relationship between Zayne and Hope feels very natural and very right now. Zayne has grown up so much and he’s hotter than ever 🙂 I can’t wait to see what happens next. I want to point out that Zayne’s suggestion to take it slow was spot on and I’m so glad they both agreed to it. It is the best way to proceed in a relationship I think. I had written a better comment yesterday but unfortunately the internet had crashed on me.

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    • CitizenErased14 says:

      Oh no, I hate it when I write out a giant comment and it gets lost 😦 I’m sorry about that.

      I’m glad you like the new banner! They’re a very cute little family! And yes, taking it slow is truly gonna be best for them right now, I think. Thank you so much for reading! ^_^

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  28. lisabeesims says:

    Seriously happy here … oh yeah … happy dance all over the place …

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  29. lisabeesims says:

    I know Abigail was sweet and all but I never could convince myself to connect with her

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  30. maladi777 says:

    I have to admit I was worried he would kiss her after eating those garlic noodles. Not a good food choice for a date. 🙂

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  31. 1) I love that the place is empty. That’s right everyone, get your food at LuzLicht and nowhere else.

    2) Awwwwwwww! Yay for them being reach other’s lobster! I’ve been saying that for months!

    3) Smart to try and take things slow. Fingers crossed it works this time!

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